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God of the Scientists

In olden-golden days the saying was: When there was nothing, there was God. When there will be nothing again, there will still be God.

But then came the scientists and changed everything. The above saying also changed to this: When there was nothing, there were quantum laws. When there will be nothing again, there will still be quantum laws.

These quantum laws are spaceless, timeless, changeless, eternal, all-pervading, unborn, uncreated, without any beginning, without an end, everlasting and immaterial. Only that these laws lack consciousness. In every other respect they are just like God.

These quantum laws are spaceless, timeless and immaterial, because when there was no space, no time and no matter, there were still these quantum laws (Vilenkin’s model).

These quantum laws are unborn and uncreated, because no one has given birth to them nor anyone has created them.

These quantum laws are all-pervading, because these laws act equally everywhere.

These quantum laws are scientists’ God.

Amen.                       

Why I am not convinced that there is no God

Only two things can make me convinced that there is no God:

1) If science can show that this universe does not need any God; and

2) If science can show that God of the theistic description cannot exist.

Regarding 1), it should be said that no one on this earth can claim that he/she is omniscient. Therefore no one on this earth can claim that he/she knows with absolutely certainty that there is no God. However scientists can come to know that there is no God if they can show that everything in this universe, including its origin also, can be explained by natural means without invoking any kind of god. No doubt this is a very lengthy process indeed, but at the end of this lengthy process one can with some certainty say that the universe does not need any God.

However it has already been shown here1 that the origin of the universe has not been explained properly by the scientists.

The above shows that science has not yet been able to explain everything of nature by natural means. In such a situation how will the scientists convince us that this universe does not need any God?

Regarding 2) it may be asked: which God? This is because there are thousands of religions on earth and each religion has its own concept of God. I have already made this point clear here2.

This God is spaceless, timeless, changeless, immortal, all-pervading, one, unborn, uncreated, without any beginning, without an end, everlasting, non-composite and immaterial.

So in order to show that this God having the above attributes cannot exist, scientists will have to show that no one or nothing in this universe can be spaceless and timeless. Then it can very easily be argued that this God does not exist, because this God is said to be spaceless and timeless whereas science has already shown that no one or nothing can be spaceless and timeless. But here science has done just the opposite to what it was supposed to do; it has shown how it is possible to be spaceless and timeless. That means here also science has failed in its endeavour to show that God of the theistic description cannot exist. Here their failure has a much deeper negative impact on us than their failure in the first case, because once they have shown how it is possible to be spaceless and timeless then it becomes next to impossible for them to convince us that this spaceless and timeless God cannot exist. All their efforts will be futile now and all their arguments against God will fall on deaf ears only.

Here I want to add one more point. If we are to bring in a God at all, then we will bring him in not as a mere observer but as the creator of the universe only. So in order to show that this creator God does not exist I think it will be sufficient if scientists can show that the universe needs no creation because it has no beginning, or that even if it has a beginning then that beginning can be easily explained without invoking any kind of god. But I have already shown that science has failed here and so we are not at all convinced that this universe does not need any God.

Scientists have failed to convince us that God does not exist.

 

 

Reference:

1. https://sekharpal.wordpress.com/2015/10/23/a-fundamental-flaw-in-the-thesis-a-universe-from-nothing-part-i/

2.  https://sekharpal.wordpress.com/2016/07/14/god-cannot-be-defined-gods-attributes-can-only-be-described/

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Science has not Acted Wisely

Even if there is a God, that God need not have to be the God of the Bible. There are other concepts of God also.1

About the supernatural God it has been said that he is spaceless, timeless, changeless, immortal, all-pervading, one, unborn, uncreated, without any beginning, without an end, everlasting, non-composite and immaterial. And then supposing that this supernatural God is real and not just a figment of our imagination science has shown as to how it is possible to be spaceless and timeless. Special theory of relativity has shown that at the speed of light time totally stops and it has also shown that any distance light has to travel becomes zero for it. Even infinite distance becomes zero for light! If certain volume of space (say, a room) is filled up with light only, then due to these two properties of light volume of that room will become zero and time also will totally stop there. As zero volume means no space, so in this way a spaceless and timeless state will obtain.

If someone is spaceless and timeless, then it can be shown very easily that this spaceless and timeless being will also be changeless, immortal, all-pervading, one, unborn, uncreated, without any beginning, without an end, everlasting, non-composite and immaterial.2

So here science has not acted wisely by supposing that a figment of our imagination is actually real.

Reference:

  1. https://sekharpal.wordpress.com/2015/10/24/beyond-good-and-evil/
  2. https://sekharpal.wordpress.com/2015/10/23/who-created-god/

 

Problem with an Eternal Universe

Some scientists are now saying that the universe is eternal, that it has always existed even before the big bang. Universe in its present form is only 13.8 billion years old, but before that it has existed in some other form. But before the big bang there was no space and no time, because space and time came into existence along with the big bang only. So if the universe was always there even before the big bang, then it was neither in space nor in time, because before the big bang there was no space and no time. Being neither in space nor in time it will thus be spaceless and timeless. It can be shown by simple logic that being spaceless and timeless it will also be changeless, immortal, all-pervading, one, unborn, uncreated, without any beginning, without an end, everlasting, non-composite and immaterial. It will be immaterial because GR has shown that space, time and matter are so interlinked that either all the three of them will be there together, or none of then will be there. But this is the traditional description of God. So are these scientists subscribing to God?

One can see the link here: https://sekharpal.wordpress.com/2015/10/23/who-created-god/

The only way to come out of this mess is to say that if the universe has always existed even before the big bang, then space and time were already there even before the big bang and that the big bang occurred within the pre-existing space-time. The present universe is also expanding within this pre-existing space-time only.